May 2010


I am beginning to envision a horrific picture of the body of Christ. I DO NOT like what this vision shows me. The Body of Christ more resembles the Bride of Frankenstein.

In order to have a heavenly image of Christ’s body, we need to look at the whole body. The problem is that there are cancerous portions to the body feedings on itself. When pushed, they may say the others outside of their sect, are part of the body, but in their minds and in their doctrines they see the others as outsiders.  “Those who do not believe [insert doctrine here] like us are deceived!” is their battle cry.

“The liberals are deceived,” cry the conservatives.

“The conservatives are deceived,” cry out the progressives.

Do I think some are deceived? Absolutely! As a matter of fact, I am confident that I am deceived – I just don’t know where yet.

As I started to get a grand image of the Body of Christ, I started falling away from the congregation that I was apart of. And I believe that this was of God. As a [post-]Charismatic [not anti nor non, but post], I would say that this part of the Body is hemorrhaging. And not only I, but many ex-leaders and even current leaders of this movement are calling for its wake-up call.

For example, one of the sore point of what I came out of was the idea of “God’s Authority” and “God’s Government”.  Not that all charismatic’s have the same idea or model of what this looks like, but the particular portion that I came out of very much had a papal/apostolic authoritative headship model. We all had authorities that we needed to submit to.

I believe that this model is a deception! I believe that this model is derived more from the Old Covenant and from the ruling of Rome then it does from Christ’s upside-down teachings of a non-authoritative, influencing, servant leadership. There is still accountability, there is still God’s order and governing, it’s just that these do not look like the world’s equivalent.

However, this debate is neither here nor there. The fact is that the poison of the cancer is not in these differing views but in the total rejection of the rest of the Body’s input. Truly the extreme of the apostolic/papal governance model is but one of many models used throughout the rest of the body. And all these other views have their biblical scholars that will argue for their positions. I firmly believe my position is the most sound biblical, christocentric position, and I will stick up for it. However, the deception greater than me being wrong in my position, would be my believing that my position is God’s position. The deception most dangerous to the Body of Christ is any teaching given in such an authoritative spirit (spoken from a pulpit as fact, as biblical and as non disputable) that it trumps all other opposing teachings in the Body and is seen as God’s Teaching. Such an arrogant, self-righteous authority is the fruit that reveals its source.

 There are countless other beliefs and doctrines that we need to get over. Discuss them, dialogue over them and debate them? Sure; To take a stand in one position as though it were God’s?  God forbid.  Once we stop fighting for these positions as though they were our own, then and only then can God himself lead the whole Body into the truth.  And I would not be surprised to find out that many of these opposing views are all part of the Truth.

If  I were to be honest, I do not hold out much hope for a better picture of the Body of Christ any time soon. One that includes Orthodox, Catholic, Protestants, Anabaptists, Reformed, Charismatics, Emergents, pre-modernists, modernists, post-modernists, …. I do not hold out much hope because this Body is made up of humanity; specifically, a breed of humanity that is, and historically has been, divisive and hateful towards one another in the name of God, rather than loving one another out of the heart of God.

I can only hope that some would read this and take comfort and loosen their strongholds. However, I know that the reality is that for some this will be heard as the rant of a deceived liberal apostate.

The meeting house finised their series on Waging Peace in a World of War entitled Inglorious Pastors. This is a must listen to series.

  1. The Emperor’s New Clothes
    drive home
  2. Radical Reformation
    drive home
  3. What did Jesus Teach?
  4. Just War: Understanding the Majority View
    drive home
  5. But what about…
    drive home
  6. Jesus vs. Jehovah
  7. Now What?

And a couple or related round table discussions:

  1. Teaching Team – Mailbag: Inglorious Pastors #1
  2. Inglorious Pastors #2 – with guest Gregory Boyd

Battlestar Galactica version of the Last Supper

As a science fiction fan I can laugh at it,
but as a Christian I have to ask
– Cylon as God?
Could you get more theologically screwed?
GlocalChristianity

Recently I posted the video ” ‘Sunday’s Coming’ Movie Trailer”.

I did find it funny, but in a “revealing the sin of consumerist Sunday” kinda way.

As Bill Kinnon put up a post where he says he sees where some think it is funny, but for him, not so much:

I don’t find “Sunday’s Coming” remotely funny.
Sadly, it simply tweaks the Consumer-Driven church from within.
It is NOT a satirical take on megachurch culture designed to elicit change.It’s an inside joke.
Please, feel free to grab your violins while the joke burns.

How sad it is when we are able to laugh at the madness without looking at the truth of that madness and making a change. It is easier to laugh at something then to change it. Thanks for a great post Bill.

Rather than comedy, the above video from Andy Stanley’s* North Point Church’s very well-equipped media department should really be seen as simply admitting the truth of something that won’t be changing anytime soon in that world.

Time to change it up a bit.

Here is a podcast on technology. I post it because I think that this sounds fascinating, too bad it is not available in Canada yet.

Also, as they were discussing Wikis, I couldn’t help but think, “That is exactly how I feel about spiritual matters [theology]. That is how the Kingdom of God is suppose to operate!”.

We can no longer be satisfied by simply being the Church for the poor from our position of establishment. We must realize that sometimes that very generosity, that very attempt to be good to other people, has kept us in a position of power and superiority. Somehow we must be of and with the poor, and then be ready for some mistrust and even criticism.

Dom Helder Camara (1909-1999), the holy Archbishop of Recife, Brazil, said it so truthfully, “As long as I fed the poor, they called me a saint. When I asked, ‘Why are there so many poor people?’ they called me a communist.”
Richard Rohr via waving or drowming

And for a little humor:

If Liberty University is an indication of where the Christian faith in America is, then does their choice for this year’s Commencement proves that many so-called Christians are more conservative then they are Christian? “Well-known radio host Glenn Beck will address Liberty University’s Class of 2010 at Commencement on Saturday, May 15, Chancellor Jerry Falwell, Jr. announced today at Convocation.” Glenn Beck a Mormon [leaving aside the argument of whether Mormons are Christian or not], is addressing christian graduates where no Liberal Christian will ever have the opportunity.

“Liberty University is blessed to have two national conservative leaders speak at our 2010 Commencement ceremony,” Falwell said.

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